We need a volunteer to judge the new Technical challenge.

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Offline Caleidoscope

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« on: June 28, 2020, 11:30:03 AM »
We need a volunteer to judge the new technical challenge. Someone with enough knowledge to be able to judge if the entry does complies with the regulations and the requirements for the challenge. That's all.  I'll take care of the challenge/contest, but math and such is not my thing. To keep it honest we need someone to overlook the challenge.

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Offline C0ryMcG

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2020, 03:19:17 AM »
Well, if there's no one else, I would be willing, although I don't think I'm the most qualified here. Most of what I know about the math of fractals I learned from the other posters on this forum.. But, I do know some things, and if a challenge or topic is unfamiliar, I could take the time to research it enough to know what I'd be looking for.

If someone else comes along who's interested in helping out with this, and who has more training than I do, I won't be offended if they are chosen instead. But otherwise, I'd be willing.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2020, 05:50:25 AM »
Well, if there's no one else, I would be willing, although I don't think I'm the most qualified here. Most of what I know about the math of fractals I learned from the other posters on this forum.. But, I do know some things, and if a challenge or topic is unfamiliar, I could take the time to research it enough to know what I'd be looking for.

If someone else comes along who's interested in helping out with this, and who has more training than I do, I won't be offended if they are chosen instead. But otherwise, I'd be willing.
Seems easy, all someone needs to do is remove noise esp. from non participants like this lyceum or whatever guy and everything is fine.
"Post your best Lichtenberg pictures for contest", what's the problem?

Offline 3DickUlus

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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2020, 06:29:55 AM »
Is the user base here capable of judging entries on technical merit as well as artistic interpretation?

fi: if I present the following, how many would understand it or know that it actually works...

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L-system
Iterations=7
Angle=30
Axoim: FX
F=C0FF-[C1-F+F]+[C2+F-F]
X=C0FF+[C1+F]+[C3-F]

or if I present the source code for a small program that takes these rules to make an image, how many people here could read the source and recognize that it works without compiling it?

I think there are a good number of FF heads that can, but this is the reason a judge is required, someone to say "This image is a portion of the Mandelbrot set that looks like a Lichtenberg figure but this other one is actually The Lichtenberg figure produced by an algorithm for electrical propagation through a solid with a given set of properties... like lucite.

I think the contest is not about making pictures and posting your best one, rather, it's about how the natural phenomenon occurs and the math behind it.

...hmmm... ::) perhaps over thinking it a bit, throwing it out there anyways.

Offline C0ryMcG

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2020, 06:31:34 AM »
Seems easy, all someone needs to do is remove noise esp. from non participants like this lyceum or whatever guy and everything is fine.
"Post your best Lichtenberg pictures for contest", what's the problem?
Only that the next contest might be to demonstrate something that I'd be likely to see you, Claud, and markm200 discussing in the Mathematics and Theories thread, and I'll have to figure out what it means in order to determine if submissions qualify.

Maybe there's no problem. There's usually no problem. I just don't want to present myself as something I'm not.

From my understanding, too, the 'judge' wouldn't be moderating the thread directly, just deciding whether an entry is valid or not, if there's doubt.

(3DickUlus gives some good examples!)

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2020, 08:01:49 AM »
@C0ryMcG: point taken. If next challenge would be, e.g., "visualize parameter space of \( e^z +c \)" a math head would help. Making something looking like lightning seems pretty straightforward to judge which posts are noise (like \( 0.5\log{x} = 3\log{x^2} \)) and which are entries, and what else is there to decide?

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2020, 08:25:53 AM »
Seems easy, all someone needs to do is remove noise esp. from non participants like this lyceum or whatever guy and everything is fine.
"Post your best Lichtenberg pictures for contest", what's the problem?

Was my last comment to you really so offensive? Worth making any kind of discussion closed to people who don't actually submit anything?

Well, if that's your idea of utopia, go for it, isolate yourself even more...

Offline Caleidoscope

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2020, 10:32:36 AM »
Was my last comment to you really so offensive? Worth making any kind of discussion closed to people who don't actually submit anything?

Well, if that's your idea of utopia, go for it, isolate yourself even more...

I agree, there is no need to get personal in this manner.  After all, the challenge is open to every member of the forum. And every member on the forum is allowed to vote. Whether a member participate or not, he/she can still vote.  And if someone has an opinion (rightfully) he/she is free to participate in any discussion he or she likes. That has nothing to do if this person will participate in the challenge or not. Until the last day the challenge is open, nobody knows who participate anyway.  :( 

Let's keep it friendly on the forum please! 



Offline gerrit

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2020, 08:11:14 PM »
Was my last comment to you really so offensive? Worth making any kind of discussion closed to people who don't actually submit anything?

Well, if that's your idea of utopia, go for it, isolate yourself even more...
Not offensive: wrong math, off topic, noise, violate rules ("For any question or suggestion or critics, please use the discussion thread. ").
Clear enough?