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what sort of image contest do you find appealing enough to participate in regularly ???

one program, unaltered, random topic
minimal alteration allowed, topic via poll from list generated from user suggestions
completely random, as is now, no topic
some of the above
all of the above

 Fractal image of the month - Discussion thread

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Offline Caleidoscope

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« Reply #90 on: July 28, 2019, 11:47:59 AM »
I forget something:
If I'm the one to continue the contest, I have to open the contest on the 30th of this month.  I will be admitted in the hospital (for hopefully) only a few days) and in that case I'm not sure I'm able (allowed) to use my laptop (don't have/want a smartphone and this is for once a negative consequence)
But I don't think that is a problem?  We just start two days early, right?

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« Reply #91 on: July 28, 2019, 11:49:11 AM »
What I read, the general opinion was to do it on top of the IOTM-contest, as a seperate one. Makes sense if we ever manage to pull through with the calendar.
So let's do both for august.

No need to deal with different capabilities of post editing imho. I always use an external editor for that. free ones like https://www.getpaint.net/ are available to everyone.
Only stict rule is: don't add non-fractal stuff. pure renders only.
ok: brightness, contrast, saturation, (and if you ask me even darkening/highlighting areas of interest).
also layers are okay if they are from the same location.

I mentioned sabine because she's very active in the contests and you already do the IOTM contest and aren't available always (as we talked in PMs). So I thought a backup/second person involved would be a good idea. I haven't asked her, jkust wrote down that thought here.
Maybe I should have talked that through with you first in PMs, didn't mean to "downgrade" you at all, you've been doing a perfect job with the IOTM!  :thumbs:

edit: yes, just start early then.

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« Reply #92 on: July 28, 2019, 11:51:47 AM »
No no no, I'm not feeling downgraded at all :D  But for as far as I know Sabine is very busy.  But I would be glad if she would wat to be my sidekick, I care a lot about her.  We only haven't asked her anything :)


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« Reply #93 on: July 29, 2019, 06:03:59 AM »
My other two cents

forget themes for the moment, as I feel this may disadvantage newbies
in the future  ,in respect to 3D , i would consider  starting off with formula types, e,g  Asurf month.
later it may be possible to supply  parameter files as starting points, (but this would require some work to produce similar starting points for different program)

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« Reply #94 on: July 29, 2019, 02:06:54 PM »
My other two cents

forget themes for the moment, as I feel this may disadvantage newbies
in the future  ,in respect to 3D , i would consider  starting off with formula types, e,g  Asurf month.
later it may be possible to supply  parameter files as starting points, (but this would require some work to produce similar starting points for different program)

That is a nice idea.  But that can also be within the themes, "This month a pm-file for all to use as a base to create something beautiful" or as you say, a formula type.  The advantage of a theme contest is that everything can be a theme, including a pm-file.  It is just a choice we can change all the time.  As for a disadvantage for newbies,  we still have the normal contest for now.  So two contest.  And they can participate whenever they want, in both if they like.  And it wil probably change along the way.  (Grateful for your input ;)) But we got to try something, for otherwise nothing will happen, right?

I have to open both contest tomorrow, for I can't do it the next coming days. So I stick for now, I hope you understand, to what he have agreed upon (mainly)
And that is summarized by Fraktalist in comment below:
Here's my suggestion to just get the ball rolling:
Let's start a contest as I suggested:

-user selected, roughly fractal related topic
-only pure fractal renders with basic post editing allowed (like contrast, saturation..)
-winner announces next months topic (own idea or chosen from "contest ideas"-thread.
-mixed 2d/3d for a start. If lots of entries from both we can split it in future months.

Let's just see how it goes, if it's fun and people participate.
Open to rule adjustments after the first month.


Let's juts do it,  :yes: and change it along the way.  More ideas, better ideas, we have a month time to create a better contest.  8)

ok?
Greetings,
Cal.

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« Reply #95 on: July 29, 2019, 08:27:19 PM »
let's go.  :thumbs:


(good idea mc larekin. mandelbulb maniacs facebook group have a contest, tweaking monthly given parameters. great results.
let's keep this in mind)

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« Reply #96 on: July 30, 2019, 02:02:09 AM »
@ calidoscope. I forgot that the themed one was additional :fp:


 
« Last Edit: July 30, 2019, 12:00:51 PM by Caleidoscope »

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« Reply #97 on: July 30, 2019, 02:25:33 AM »
@Fraktalist I think it works well on MMs facebook group because everyone there is using Mber, I don't think it really applies fairly here because we have so many proggies to choose from and a few users have created their own proggies for specialized formula and color representation.

by presenting a set of parameters you would be restricting the program of choice to one of your choice, oh yes we can "translate" an equivalent set of parameters for another program but are they all going to translate or even exist in another program ???

this would be great if we were running a contest for each program in the downloads section, but I don't think we have the volume of participating users to make that happen.

ultimately the new users of these programs can access the settings provided by contestants via these events, learn from them and develop their own style... maybe it would be a good thing to let participants know (contest opening post) that using parameters from last month's winner as a starting point is not a sin as long as it ends up being substantially different and includes a reference to what they started from :D

Confession: many times I have used other's parameters as a starting point  and not properly referenced the original, but this is usually in a thread where a few of us might be hacking at something and it's pretty obvious where it started and who might be responsible for the original ( @Sabine62 in particular ;) thanks for sharing the fantastic works btw  :thumbs:  ) the rest I can't remeber but I thank you all too!!!
« Last Edit: July 30, 2019, 02:54:02 AM by 3DickUlus, Reason: typo »
Fragmentarium is not a toy, it is a very versatile tool that can be used to make toys ;)

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Fractals/fragmentarium

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« Reply #98 on: July 30, 2019, 09:08:56 AM »
re parameters the key word is "later", i hope to have implement fractals formulas, with the same parameters as M3D, in both Fragmentarium and Mandelbulberv2, this may never happen  :)

Something as simple as 3D asurf month, is more do-able, but again it would take time.

I have no strong feelings about any of these things.

More importantly, I have tried to interest Mandelbulber Facebook members into joining FF and participating. I see it as very easy for them to upload one image they do per month here.  Supporting the home of fractals.  It has left me a bit disappointed on the uptake. :(

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« Reply #99 on: July 30, 2019, 12:02:31 PM »
@ calidoscope. I forgot that the themed one was additional :fp:

McClarekin,
I'm real sorry, somehow my comment get into your comment  :(  And that without any anesthetic yet  :D

Well this was my reply to you:
:D  Very understandable for everything went in  chaos-spirals, as should be, for after all we are all  'fractal-maniacs'  ;) :awe:   :beer:

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« Reply #100 on: August 15, 2019, 10:38:01 AM »
Well, the first part of the new Theme contest is halfway.  Thank you all for participating. It is exciting and I'm amazed what you managed to create with this theme in mind  :thumbs:
The topic is locked and hopefully a lot of members will show their appreciation by voting for them all. 

As we agreed upon, the winner is allowed to pick the next month theme.  He, or she must come up with this theme right after the announcement of the winners, so between the 28th of the month, and before the first of the next month so I can start the new challenge. 
It is a good idea to think in advance what theme you would like if you would be the winner.  Remember, it must be done with pure fractal.

My question and suggestion is: To let the winner choose the topic only once. If he or she wins two times in a row, the second timen will be random choice, by me, or after your suggestions. For in my opinion it would not be fair to let a multiple winner choose time and again.

I would like to see your view on this!

Greetings,
Caleidoscope.

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« Reply #101 on: August 16, 2019, 12:37:27 AM »
Agree 100%

Great idea having the themed competition. Looking forward to finding out what the next theme will be.
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« Reply #102 on: September 22, 2019, 01:01:15 PM »
Where are the votes for the theme contest?

According to the number of gold medals, there are 14 votes for the normal contest at the moment, but only 2 (including mine from just before) for the theme contest. Hey people, you don't have to wait until there is "Please vote!" in the subject of the thread ...     >:(

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« Reply #103 on: September 22, 2019, 07:34:37 PM »
@ThunderboltPagoda take a look at how many voted in the poll at the top of this page. At least the participants should vote  :-\

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« Reply #104 on: September 26, 2019, 02:42:44 PM »
@ThunderboltPagoda take a look at how many voted in the poll at the top of this page. At least the participants should vote  :-\

I agree 3DickUlus, it's too bad.   It doesn't seem to live somehow. 
Maybe if we donate an Austin Martin, there would be more enthusiasm ;)  But I'm afraid that would be the one on the windowsill :D