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Offline pauldelbrot

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(Problem) One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« on: June 17, 2021, 10:07:33 PM »
https://fractalforums.org/index.php?topic=4280.msg29114#msg29114

The domain name near the end was altered from what I wrote. No "edited by" tag was added naming the admin or moderator responsible for the edit, and furthermore the edit appears to be well outside the scope of what admins and moderators should be doing with the power to edit others' posts.

Looks like we've been hacked.

That makes this URGENT.

Linkback: https://fractalforums.org/index.php?topic=4281.0

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2021, 10:35:53 PM »
Same for me.

It would be nice to know the rules (I've just checked both the guidelines and the terms of use, again), but I can't find anything about this. I can understand that some content needs to be altered or removed from public view. There is a whole range of stuff we don't want, ranging from annoying (spam) to criminal (fraud, death threats, child porn, etc). The latter is clear, the first is subjective. Changing content without clear rules (user expectation) for no clear reason is just very, very bad practice. I don't think the forum is hacked. More probable we are hacked by the forum. It was not a pleasant experience. I hope there is a good explanation and hopefully also a solution.

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2021, 10:42:55 PM »
It certainly is some automatic engine not a hacking. (exept if hackers would want to hide fractal images, and I would doubt that) Say if in FB you 'll post certain words they will be delated and you could be baned for 3 days unless you disagree and are re tested. Links to certain sites is just automaticaly not allowed. I don't know what or why but perhaps it is related to that specific site.
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https://i.bad_image_link.com/uu088GZ.png is pretty self explanatory.
There alredy was some minor problems with images shared from outdated site.  Admin recomends to use only site upload service https://fractalforums.org/forum-help-and-support/31/images-suspected-by-malwared-files/4220
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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2021, 11:11:34 PM »
https://fractalforums.org/index.php?topic=4280.msg29114#msg29114

The domain name near the end was altered from what I wrote. No "edited by" tag was added naming the admin or moderator responsible for the edit, and furthermore the edit appears to be well outside the scope of what admins and moderators should be doing with the power to edit others' posts.

Looks like we've been hacked.

That makes this URGENT.

God damn it!
It's a Fractal Life, 247... ;^)

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2021, 11:18:21 PM »

HAAAACKS!

Whoever did that will face justice. And justice shall be served eventually.

Whoops, I guess my reaction was overexaggerated, sorry for posting this in the first place.

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2021, 11:25:05 PM »
I remember that for example a member posted in the contest and the picture was gone. That was due to an outside host that removed the picture. So on the forum the picture was gone as well. That's why we want members to participate in the contest by using the attachment option, not  a outside url form some hosting service or whatever.  Precisely because those pictures often disappear after a while as is explained to me.  This is different for you say that also the comment itself is changed, and that's absurd.  ::)

It is definitely not practice to alter or remove any members input. Why would we? Sometimes it happens that a member either made a mistake or there is a pictures posted in the wrong gallery and a request from a member to resolve that.  But never without a request. If for some reason something has to be deleted, for reasons of Forum rules or law for example a moderator would ask the member to remove it him/herself. And than perhaps if there is really no other option only than it has to be removed by the administrator.

So for example me, I never ever removed a picture or altered a comment a member made, removed the question because it was resolved that happened once. No moderators nor admins, here do such things, I'm absolutely sure of that. So there must be another cause. And I do hope that we find out what is going on? For this doesn't feel good at all. It is very weird, I think so too. 


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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2021, 11:26:16 PM »
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Whoops, I guess my reaction was overexaggerated, sorry for posting this in the first place.

Ok Alex, would you like your message to be removed?  ;)  I'm sorry couldn't help myself.

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2021, 11:27:07 PM »
I guess it isn't necessary to have posted this at all. Sorry for the mild inconvenience.

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2021, 11:29:30 PM »
https://fractalforums.org/index.php?topic=4280.msg29114#msg29114
The domain name near the end was altered from what I wrote. No "edited by" tag was added naming the admin or moderator responsible for the edit,

You say that the name of the moderator, admin was named? Who's name was mentioned?

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2021, 11:30:11 PM »
I guess it isn't necessary to have posted this at all. Sorry for the mild inconvenience.

Just joking Alex, non whatsoever.   8)

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2021, 12:25:22 AM »
You say that the name of the moderator, admin was named? Who's name was mentioned?

No, I said that none was. Which itself is abnormal, and suggests that a) it was an admin and not a "mere" moderator and b) whoever it was does not want to be held accountable for these edits, and so has in these instances suppressed the mechanism that normally alerts people that an edited post was edited and who by.

The hiding of the identity of the perpetrator of the phantom edits is a very strong indication that whoever it is is acting in bad faith. This is the main reason why I suspect an outside hack -- who here would act in bad faith like this?

I guess we are fortunate that the perp seems more interested in pranking us than in ransoming us, using us to spread malware to others, or engaging in wanton destruction.

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2021, 12:44:21 AM »
I do hope we have good regular backups. If you are right and this is some harass from a perp it still means that someone got access to our site and is able to change things. And that would be horrible. It feels like someone burgled your home.  It is getting more and more difficult these days to keep your own place safe on the net, in and outside for the members as well as for the content.

Well it does give the feeling of have to be more careful again, even with urls  posted here, and getting back to the old copy paste safety. This was the only site I trusted with url's in the email messages. Back to zero.  :( 


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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2021, 12:50:41 AM »
Just joking Alex, non whatsoever.   8)

That HAAAX was also a joke.

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Re: One of my posts was edited without my permission.
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2021, 12:51:46 AM »
That HAAAX was also a joke.
I know sweety and you made me laugh :D


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