Printing big fractals

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Offline drcoolson

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« on: August 13, 2018, 06:41:52 PM »
Hi ive just joined this forum having been interested in fractals for a long time

My work is to repair huge hp designjet coloutr printers.

They print 60" wide by any length.

I'd would like to make a non commercial offer to you all.

Send me your rendered files, and I will print them as big as need.

I have a random stock.of good part used rolls media acquired over some time. There is quite a bit.

You will need to pay packing postage.

I dont promise 100% colour accuracy, I dont promise next day turn round. Images,may be printed with dye inks which are great but will fade in strong light or pigmented inks, which wont. It depends, which machines are on test

If you want more than one or seek to sell the prints I supply im happy to help, but we need to talk further.

I have photo gloss, matte paper, matte vinyl and coated  media.

Images can be sent by wetransfer.com

If i get huge take  up of this offer which is to much handle, I may have to think again.

I am based in bath england.

Why would I make this,offer?
I want eventually to print fractals ,commercially. But right now I need experience, I have everything else in abundance, ink. paper, and printers.




Offline quaz0r

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2018, 01:11:30 AM »
thats a really cool offer!  i wonder though how much the shipping would be, say to another country like the united states?  lets say we went big and did a 60x120 or something  O:-)  also i wonder what is the PPI of the printer, so a person can quickly calculate an exact resolution to render their image to make it 1:1 with the printer?

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2018, 10:37:02 AM »
HI

The printer prints at 600 dpi

For a very good quality image, I suggest 200-300dpi.

I checked post to the USA.

Max size length 1500mm packed.  I can print on 1524mm wide media and cut it down

You might choose print an ultra large fractal in several strips say 1400 x 2500 or whatever

I think it will be around 35 - but I have not checked as it needs a destination post code of got weight of suitable postal tube


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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2018, 08:41:46 PM »
Welcome!
Incredible offer! :)
Will jump on it as soon as I'm back next week from my little vacation.

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2018, 03:31:03 AM »
hurry up and place an order bro, so we know whether its a scam or not  O0   :D

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2018, 10:39:19 PM »
More on printing big fractals

1) Sending files

You can send rendered fractals to
 
https://blackbox-inkwell.wetransfer.com

the email address you should enter is peter@bristolinkjet.co.uk

It will accept up to 20gb I think

2) PPI / DPI (DOTS PER INCH)

The printer will print to 600DPI - in practice 300 dpi as good as you need 200 looks pretty good

3) Shiping costs - For international shipping please use https://www.myparceldelivery.com/ to get a price

Allow an extra 5cm length for packing

Diameter is 100mm

Weight. I guess less the 5 KG

I reckon packing will be about 10

I am in the UK -My postcode is SN12 8DE

4) Getting a bigger print  / Minimising post cost.

You could print your image in strips 600mm x XXXX or any 800mm x XXXX

I can split the image down at my end - or do it yourself. It depends on what file format you send JPG FIFF is the easiest

Kind regards

Peter






Offline simon.snake

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2018, 10:52:32 PM »
I agree with one reply to your kind offer that it is wise to be cautious.

You've provided lots of info, lots of details on what you are willing to do and so on, but you've not really shown any proof of what you are capable of.  They say a picture contains a thousand words, so how about some photographic evidence of your setup, some pictures showing a few sample prints, something printed that also has today's date in the shot, maybe today's newspaper so we can see you're genuine.

I'm sure your take up would improve upon providing these photographs of what you can offer.
Simon says...

Offline RedshiftRider

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2018, 05:04:34 PM »
Hey welcome to the forums.
That's very cool. I actually have a HP designjet 110plus which I would like to use to print my own fractal artwork but I can't get the software to work.  ???
Could you maybe give me a few hints to get it to work?

Offline 3DickUlus

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2018, 05:11:37 AM »
I'm going to have to go with Simon on this one and err on the side of caution!
A little digging and this almost looks like spam, cold calls with offers of free goods/services are usually designed just to get the ball rolling.

Quote from: drcoolson http://www.blackbox-inkwell.co.uk/services-to-schools/
Give Peter Martins, our Managing Director, a call to discuss your schools printing needs. E-mail him at Peter@blackbox-inkwell.co.uk or call his mobile on number redacted.

We will donate 30 to your school fund for all new customers you refer to us.

lowly guy who repairs printers? or Managing Director!

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You will need to pay packing postage.
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If you want more than one or seek to sell the prints I supply im happy to help, but we need to talk further.
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now that the radar has engaged we will be watching carefully  C:-)

I'm sure every active member here would like to have their best render showcased in the livingroom, I know I would, the hard part is choosing just one, I think I've got about 10 or so that I would like to get printed, and, if the first free one looks good then drcoolson's "cold call" worked and he's got some business, and I've got my fav one printed large scale for free...ish?
« Last Edit: September 12, 2018, 05:30:28 AM by 3DickUlus »
Resistance is fertile... you will be illuminated!

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Fractals/fragmentarium

Offline RedshiftRider

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2018, 07:28:55 AM »
3dickulus, I agree this definitely seems like a deal that is too good to be true, there must be something hidden behind it and as Simon's reply states he has not provided proof. Services like this would require resources to complete them and I don't think Peter would want to offer something if he could not get profit out of it.

Offline 3DickUlus

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2018, 08:47:48 PM »
@RedshiftRider Well, according to the website Peter is the "Managing Director" NOT the lowly guy who repairs printers so until he can demonstrate that his offer is genuine and legitimate this thread will be viewed as spam and eventually removed or locked or .... just ignored.

So please, Peter, don't view the users here as a resource to drum up clients for your business, you have an opportunity to be a member of a unique and very welcoming community with a membership that ranges from hobbyists to professionals, from part-time nerds to hardcore academics and there is no doubt in my mind that some would be more than willing to do business with you but first you need to establish a good relationship based on trust.

As I mentioned, virtually every active member here has images they would like printed, Peter, you would have had a much better reception if you had contacted admin first, made  an offer of a discount % for members, then FF could have made an "official" announcement , after some testing of course, and you would be happily printing fractals of all sizes.

...it's your move Peter. I hope it's a good one ;)

Offline drcoolson

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2018, 04:45:50 PM »
Hi

Here is a great fractal supplied to me by Kees van den Doel, printing today

https://youtu.be/PpmZjPljPvw

This machine will print up to 42" wide by any length

Thanks for looking




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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2018, 02:15:47 AM »
 :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: very nice  O0 I'm sure you'll be hearing from some of the folks here. Looking forward to some good reviews.

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2018, 01:52:28 AM »
 I did look around for local availability and I found a couple of "comparison" prices... (CDN$)

1200dpi $6.50 per square foot on 50lb photo paper, 600dpi $4.00 per square foot, and that is in my hands within 24 hrs.
your offer might be good for people that aren't in an urban center with a competitive digital printing market that would have to pay shipping etc. anyways.
example price 24"x36" @1200dpi = $39.00 @600dpi = $24.00

maybe you could offer some tips on optimizing images for the best output? I know mine never look the same on the screen as they do on paper and it usually takes me a few attempts to get it right.


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